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		<title>By: yzma</title>
		<link>http://www.haslo.ch/blog/installing-lyx-latex-on-windows-vista/#comment-1217</link>
		<dc:creator>yzma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it works! thank so much 4 d tips!!</description>
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		<title>By: haslo</title>
		<link>http://www.haslo.ch/blog/installing-lyx-latex-on-windows-vista/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>haslo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That conversion job sounds awful, and like a huge lot of work. Good luck in trying out alternatives then - it&#039;s very possible that FrameMaker ends up being better-suited to your task after all, but you never know :)

There&#039;s other LaTeX editors, LyX is quite limited - but works perfectly for scientific thesis, I kept it after the thesis I installed it for and am using it for the diploma thesis as well now. Honestly, I haven&#039;t looked further after finding it good enough, I&#039;m lazy like that :P

And thanks a lot for your comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That conversion job sounds awful, and like a huge lot of work. Good luck in trying out alternatives then &#8211; it&#8217;s very possible that FrameMaker ends up being better-suited to your task after all, but you never know <img src='http://www.haslo.ch/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There&#8217;s other LaTeX editors, LyX is quite limited &#8211; but works perfectly for scientific thesis, I kept it after the thesis I installed it for and am using it for the diploma thesis as well now. Honestly, I haven&#8217;t looked further after finding it good enough, I&#8217;m lazy like that <img src='http://www.haslo.ch/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And thanks a lot for your comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Curios-IT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curios-IT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to reply. I just felt the need to concur with you over download difficulties and and, in fact, the disjointed and confusing info on the wiki site.

Yes, LaTeX has been araound a long time, mostly in the acedemic and programing world: I have never had much interest in it. Still don&#039;t, really - it&#039;s the editors I&#039;m looking at.

In the aircraft industry, I have worked with highly structured information all my life (from 10 pitch OCR-B daisywheel output to SGML manuals with &gt;2Million hyperlinks), and FrameMaker does a pretty good job there. Far better tham MS Word etc. Which is why it is so popular in the industry. 

However, no harm in checking out the alternatives now and then, especially since XML with HTML output are the name of the game now and are a long way from the paper distributions where every page had a different issue date on it. That is where FrameMaker really scored.

Anyhow, I don&#039;t have anything to disagree with you about. It might be that LyX will be better (and cheaper) for my needs if it is easier to set up for SGML/XML. FrameMaker is quit onerous to set up. 

I won&#039;t be checking it out this week now though: I am currently converting completely inconsistent WordPerfect 5.x and 6.x docs to FrameMaker or Word via Open Office. In the document I have open at this moment, I have found 67 page headers - all the same. there were 9 different fonts called up none of them used. The one font that is used, is called up in almost every paragraph and in 120 cells of one table. It only needs to be there once at the begining of the document. These docs are so inconsistent that any form of atomatic translation is out of the question. Hence the interest in a low cost, but stable, editor that takes the formatting out of the hands of the author and lets them build content only. If you know of any others I can check out I&#039;d be pleased to hear about them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to reply. I just felt the need to concur with you over download difficulties and and, in fact, the disjointed and confusing info on the wiki site.</p>
<p>Yes, LaTeX has been araound a long time, mostly in the acedemic and programing world: I have never had much interest in it. Still don&#8217;t, really &#8211; it&#8217;s the editors I&#8217;m looking at.</p>
<p>In the aircraft industry, I have worked with highly structured information all my life (from 10 pitch OCR-B daisywheel output to SGML manuals with &gt;2Million hyperlinks), and FrameMaker does a pretty good job there. Far better tham MS Word etc. Which is why it is so popular in the industry. </p>
<p>However, no harm in checking out the alternatives now and then, especially since XML with HTML output are the name of the game now and are a long way from the paper distributions where every page had a different issue date on it. That is where FrameMaker really scored.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I don&#8217;t have anything to disagree with you about. It might be that LyX will be better (and cheaper) for my needs if it is easier to set up for SGML/XML. FrameMaker is quit onerous to set up. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t be checking it out this week now though: I am currently converting completely inconsistent WordPerfect 5.x and 6.x docs to FrameMaker or Word via Open Office. In the document I have open at this moment, I have found 67 page headers &#8211; all the same. there were 9 different fonts called up none of them used. The one font that is used, is called up in almost every paragraph and in 120 cells of one table. It only needs to be there once at the begining of the document. These docs are so inconsistent that any form of atomatic translation is out of the question. Hence the interest in a low cost, but stable, editor that takes the formatting out of the hands of the author and lets them build content only. If you know of any others I can check out I&#8217;d be pleased to hear about them.</p>
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		<title>By: haslo</title>
		<link>http://www.haslo.ch/blog/installing-lyx-latex-on-windows-vista/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>haslo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, OK ... I was a little put back by the whole installation routine hugeness as well. I guess it&#039;s the fate (and potential bane) of open source software though that the developers often care more about the application itself than its installation or user-friendliness...

LaTeX isn&#039;t exactly new by the way though :) It&#039;s been around since 1980.

The thing about it not being able to download MiKTeX is exactly one of the problems I experienced as well by the way: It seems MiKTeX meanwhile moved (since the installation routine was programmed) and thus it&#039;s not possible to install on-the-fly, and you have to download the entire LyX package that includes MiKTeX (link in the post).

Good luck, and let me know if it worked!

Oh, and FrameMaker has quite a different focus from LaTeX. Customizing the layout in LaTeX is pretty hard and can get very technical, it&#039;s best used for stuff it was built to be used for - scientific publications - FrameMaker originally evolved partially as a way to showcase the great graphical possibilities of Sun workstations. As such, arguably LaTeX is structurally more rigid than the FrameMaker XML. Also, LaTeX enforces structure way more than FrameMaker does, because while FrameMaker was a graphical publishing package that had structure slapped on top in recent releases (starting 2002 it seems), LaTeX evolved from structure to a software package. Keep in mind that I have no clue and never actually worked with FrameMaker myself, but those differences in approach have to be kept in mind or you will be disappointed :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, OK &#8230; I was a little put back by the whole installation routine hugeness as well. I guess it&#8217;s the fate (and potential bane) of open source software though that the developers often care more about the application itself than its installation or user-friendliness&#8230;</p>
<p>LaTeX isn&#8217;t exactly new by the way though <img src='http://www.haslo.ch/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s been around since 1980.</p>
<p>The thing about it not being able to download MiKTeX is exactly one of the problems I experienced as well by the way: It seems MiKTeX meanwhile moved (since the installation routine was programmed) and thus it&#8217;s not possible to install on-the-fly, and you have to download the entire LyX package that includes MiKTeX (link in the post).</p>
<p>Good luck, and let me know if it worked!</p>
<p>Oh, and FrameMaker has quite a different focus from LaTeX. Customizing the layout in LaTeX is pretty hard and can get very technical, it&#8217;s best used for stuff it was built to be used for &#8211; scientific publications &#8211; FrameMaker originally evolved partially as a way to showcase the great graphical possibilities of Sun workstations. As such, arguably LaTeX is structurally more rigid than the FrameMaker XML. Also, LaTeX enforces structure way more than FrameMaker does, because while FrameMaker was a graphical publishing package that had structure slapped on top in recent releases (starting 2002 it seems), LaTeX evolved from structure to a software package. Keep in mind that I have no clue and never actually worked with FrameMaker myself, but those differences in approach have to be kept in mind or you will be disappointed <img src='http://www.haslo.ch/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CuriosIT</title>
		<link>http://www.haslo.ch/blog/installing-lyx-latex-on-windows-vista/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>CuriosIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something is still &quot;broken&quot; in the LyX installation.
I Spent from midnight until 3 a.m. this morning installing LyX only to find the same thing: it was unable to download MiKTeX during the installation. (Dare I say that perhaps we hav been spoiled by MS istallations that now seem to work so seemlessly? I remember the days when installing a printer meant wriing your own driver. However, I do now expect better than this.)
I subsequently down loaded MiKTeX separately. Then went to bed. Before installing MiKTeX, I decided to check the internet for advice on whether I could install MiKTeX after lyX. In the absence of any better advice than yours, 
I will uninstall LyX re-download the whole package and start again.
I am a technical author used to putting content into strictly controlled pre-set print formats (and SGML/XML) in high-end applications such as FrameMaker. I am not sure LyX will be rigorous enough for me, but I try to keep an eye on what&#039;s developing around the new technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something is still &#8220;broken&#8221; in the LyX installation.<br />
I Spent from midnight until 3 a.m. this morning installing LyX only to find the same thing: it was unable to download MiKTeX during the installation. (Dare I say that perhaps we hav been spoiled by MS istallations that now seem to work so seemlessly? I remember the days when installing a printer meant wriing your own driver. However, I do now expect better than this.)<br />
I subsequently down loaded MiKTeX separately. Then went to bed. Before installing MiKTeX, I decided to check the internet for advice on whether I could install MiKTeX after lyX. In the absence of any better advice than yours,<br />
I will uninstall LyX re-download the whole package and start again.<br />
I am a technical author used to putting content into strictly controlled pre-set print formats (and SGML/XML) in high-end applications such as FrameMaker. I am not sure LyX will be rigorous enough for me, but I try to keep an eye on what&#8217;s developing around the new technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: haslo</title>
		<link>http://www.haslo.ch/blog/installing-lyx-latex-on-windows-vista/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>haslo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a problem, glad to have been of help :) And thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a problem, glad to have been of help <img src='http://www.haslo.ch/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  And thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Landberg</title>
		<link>http://www.haslo.ch/blog/installing-lyx-latex-on-windows-vista/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Landberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the advice, especially which version to download.  Initially, I used the bundle from a mirror site off of the download page.  BIG MISTAKE! The Metafile to EPS converter hijacked my ability to print from ANY program.

I followed yr advice and everything works great.  Thank you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the advice, especially which version to download.  Initially, I used the bundle from a mirror site off of the download page.  BIG MISTAKE! The Metafile to EPS converter hijacked my ability to print from ANY program.</p>
<p>I followed yr advice and everything works great.  Thank you again.</p>
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		<title>By: haslo</title>
		<link>http://www.haslo.ch/blog/installing-lyx-latex-on-windows-vista/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>haslo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, OK ... admittedly, I&#039;m already in the middle of writing now (after gladly having put the editor woes behind me for now), so I&#039;m a bit scared of breaking the flow that brought me to 5 pages on the first day of actual writing already :)

I&#039;ll certainly give them a try before I delve into the diploma thesis itself though, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, OK &#8230; admittedly, I&#8217;m already in the middle of writing now (after gladly having put the editor woes behind me for now), so I&#8217;m a bit scared of breaking the flow that brought me to 5 pages on the first day of actual writing already <img src='http://www.haslo.ch/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll certainly give them a try before I delve into the diploma thesis itself though, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: habi</title>
		<link>http://www.haslo.ch/blog/installing-lyx-latex-on-windows-vista/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>habi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you should also give &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latexeditor.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LEd&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.toolscenter.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TeXnicCenter&lt;/a&gt; a try, they&#039;re both more powerful than Lyx (in terms of WYMIWYG...), and let you focus quite a bit more on the content than on presentation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should also give <a href="http://www.latexeditor.org/">LEd</a> or <a href="http://www.toolscenter.org/">TeXnicCenter</a> a try, they&#8217;re both more powerful than Lyx (in terms of WYMIWYG&#8230;), and let you focus quite a bit more on the content than on presentation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: haslo</title>
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		<dc:creator>haslo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice, thanks :)

I&#039;m working on the paper at the office, so I&#039;ll wait with downloading until tomorrow :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice, thanks <img src='http://www.haslo.ch/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on the paper at the office, so I&#8217;ll wait with downloading until tomorrow <img src='http://www.haslo.ch/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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